I guess funny is in the eye of the beholder. This isn’t funny because it doesn’t reflect anything near a true picture of how Eagle Forum does business. The anti-immigration folks maybe!
Or maybe a characterization of Bill Clinton as Quagmeyer on The Family Guy…giggity-giggity. Now that’s funny because it has an air of truth to it everyone can recognize.
This “reel” connection above is a reach…and reaching typically isn’t funny. I give it one thumb down (and one finger up).
Come on, it is SO Eagle Forum! Lines like “Remember the Maine, Plymoth Rock and the Golden Rule!” It’s a classic appeal to tradition and sentiment.
To be fair, this song is funny politically because it demonstrates how silly arguments that end in apocolypse are. And isn’t that essentially what the Eagle Forum argues? Saving us from ourselves?
Perhaps the sentimentality, Tom, but not the snake oil. There is no malicious lying going on in the EF camp…at least not from Gayle.
Your “portrayal” or interpretation of EF is a bit along the lines of China Syndrome, Silkwood, maybe even Grisham novels…entertaining(?), but nothing close to the truth in fact.
Did you watch the same video I did? The Eagle Forum has perfected the art of manufacturing public outrage over trivial issues. Just look at the whole International Baccalaureate controversy from our last legislative session. They whipped Sen. Dayton up into a frenzy over supposed U.N. conspiracies to take over Utah’s education system. In the end, she ended up looking foolish for her lack of knowledge about what IB really is and the Eagle Forum proved again its ability to influence legislators using the silliest of arguments.
The Eagle Forum has shown time and time again their willingness to manufacture an outrage if there isn’t an obvious one available for them to complain about. When there isn’t anything to be outraged about the donations to morality warrior government lobbyists such as Ms. Ruzika dry right up.
The comparison between Ms. Ruzika and “Professor” Hill couldn’t possibly be more apt.
BTW…the Clinton/Quagmire comparison works pretty well too!
Jeremy, I know Gayle pretty well…although, admittedly I am not a card-carrier of EF (mostly a women’s organization)…and I have never seen her “whip up” an issue just to create a stir.
The Harold Hill analogy assumes unwarranted mischief, even illegal activity. I know Tom is not suggesting illegalities, but even the mischief part isn’t true about them…UNLESS you simply don’t like what they champion…and then everything they do would sound unwarranted and pot-stirring.
Honestly, I have never heard Gayle EVER say or have I EVER seen her do something to simply stir the pot. Frankly, she/they don’t have the time…you know they are all volunteers don’t you (i.e. don’t get paid for what they…unlike me ).
Gayle (Utah EF) actually does support at least some lies, propaganda and bad agenda, though I generally support the EF on the national level more than here in Utah because of just this. Phyllis Schlafly (president of the national EF) is very good on so many issues. She likewise stands up against the feminist war on fathers, children and the family which the DV industry (domestic violence) and legal profession supports to the hilt. Lots of profit and power there, of course. Phyllis says it like it is about this and is not afraid, as many PC “reporters” are, about revealing the DV industry and buddies for what they are – an abuse factory all in its own right – and stirring up the ultimate abuse riddled hornet’s nest. I’ve witnessed the DV industry abuse first hand in far too many cases.
I used to support the DV industry avidly (CAPSA, etc., because I simply object to abuse). Now I speak out against the DV industry avidly. Bottom line here: Gayle supports the DV industry and friends’ propaganda and abuse on Utah’s “Capital” Hill while Phyllis opposes it strongly for very good reason. Look up Phyllis’ article on this subject and see why she is against such a rotten industry turning night into day and white into black. Sorry, but though I like many other things about Gayle, she is a walking contradiction in this area.
hilarious and scary all at once.
I guess funny is in the eye of the beholder. This isn’t funny because it doesn’t reflect anything near a true picture of how Eagle Forum does business. The anti-immigration folks maybe!
Or maybe a characterization of Bill Clinton as Quagmeyer on The Family Guy…giggity-giggity. Now that’s funny because it has an air of truth to it everyone can recognize.
This “reel” connection above is a reach…and reaching typically isn’t funny. I give it one thumb down (and one finger up).
PTM
LOL. Paul.
Come on, it is SO Eagle Forum! Lines like “Remember the Maine, Plymoth Rock and the Golden Rule!” It’s a classic appeal to tradition and sentiment.
To be fair, this song is funny politically because it demonstrates how silly arguments that end in apocolypse are. And isn’t that essentially what the Eagle Forum argues? Saving us from ourselves?
Perhaps the sentimentality, Tom, but not the snake oil. There is no malicious lying going on in the EF camp…at least not from Gayle.
Your “portrayal” or interpretation of EF is a bit along the lines of China Syndrome, Silkwood, maybe even Grisham novels…entertaining(?), but nothing close to the truth in fact.
Let me be clear. The similarity IS not in the intention. It is in the logic of the arguments.
OKay…maybe.
Mr. Mero,
Did you watch the same video I did? The Eagle Forum has perfected the art of manufacturing public outrage over trivial issues. Just look at the whole International Baccalaureate controversy from our last legislative session. They whipped Sen. Dayton up into a frenzy over supposed U.N. conspiracies to take over Utah’s education system. In the end, she ended up looking foolish for her lack of knowledge about what IB really is and the Eagle Forum proved again its ability to influence legislators using the silliest of arguments.
The Eagle Forum has shown time and time again their willingness to manufacture an outrage if there isn’t an obvious one available for them to complain about. When there isn’t anything to be outraged about the donations to morality warrior government lobbyists such as Ms. Ruzika dry right up.
The comparison between Ms. Ruzika and “Professor” Hill couldn’t possibly be more apt.
BTW…the Clinton/Quagmire comparison works pretty well too!
Jeremy, I know Gayle pretty well…although, admittedly I am not a card-carrier of EF (mostly a women’s organization)…and I have never seen her “whip up” an issue just to create a stir.
The Harold Hill analogy assumes unwarranted mischief, even illegal activity. I know Tom is not suggesting illegalities, but even the mischief part isn’t true about them…UNLESS you simply don’t like what they champion…and then everything they do would sound unwarranted and pot-stirring.
Honestly, I have never heard Gayle EVER say or have I EVER seen her do something to simply stir the pot. Frankly, she/they don’t have the time…you know they are all volunteers don’t you (i.e. don’t get paid for what they…unlike me
).
Gayle (Utah EF) actually does support at least some lies, propaganda and bad agenda, though I generally support the EF on the national level more than here in Utah because of just this. Phyllis Schlafly (president of the national EF) is very good on so many issues. She likewise stands up against the feminist war on fathers, children and the family which the DV industry (domestic violence) and legal profession supports to the hilt. Lots of profit and power there, of course. Phyllis says it like it is about this and is not afraid, as many PC “reporters” are, about revealing the DV industry and buddies for what they are – an abuse factory all in its own right – and stirring up the ultimate abuse riddled hornet’s nest. I’ve witnessed the DV industry abuse first hand in far too many cases.
I used to support the DV industry avidly (CAPSA, etc., because I simply object to abuse). Now I speak out against the DV industry avidly. Bottom line here: Gayle supports the DV industry and friends’ propaganda and abuse on Utah’s “Capital” Hill while Phyllis opposes it strongly for very good reason. Look up Phyllis’ article on this subject and see why she is against such a rotten industry turning night into day and white into black. Sorry, but though I like many other things about Gayle, she is a walking contradiction in this area.