The Fraternity should hire a public relations firm, because the more they try to defend the situation, the worse their image gets. I have a feeling that this is going to get really bad for this fraternity… Such a horrible tragedy, which could have been avoided so easily!

i’m just sayin…

I am VERY aware that “girl frats” is not the proper term and I am a little more educated on fraternities than you might think as I have lived with six frat brothers for more than a year, they belonged to several different fraternities. Many of their brothers come party here and bring over their girlfriends who mostly belong to sororities, so again, I might have a little more education on fraternities than one would think….but I do apologize for abbreviating.

I find little to no difference among his death being caused by “hazing” or “excessive celebration of becoming a new member”.

He was 18, in their frat house, and plowed to the point that it killed him.

I also think that the word “Haze” has been thrown around a lot. I’m not saying that hazing doesn’t occur but I put the definition below so it can be put into perspective.

haze 2 (hāz) Pronunciation Key
tr.v. hazed, haz•ing, haz•es

1. To persecute or harass with meaningless, difficult, or humiliating tasks.
2. To initiate, as into a college fraternity, by exacting humiliating performances from or playing rough practical jokes upon.

I find it ironic that even Webster’s uses the stereotype of a college fraternity in its definition. I don’t know about you but I think that the cards are stacked against the Greek System but that’s standard.

Everyone likes to point fingers in situations like this. If it makes you feel better than whatever, but I would wait until the police statement comes out. The problem is, that when something bad happens in one fraternity house, the whole community is blamed. For people that don’t know about the Greek System there is no difference between Sigma Nu or Pi Kappa Alpha or any of the other houses. Please don’t generalize. Every house is different. Believe it or not, there are actually some houses out there that follow the rules. Sorry for the rant but I just want people to try to think critically about this situation until the facts surface. If it was the fraternity’s fault then get rid of them. I don’t want them giving the Greek System a bad name.

I have one last comment about hazing. I am a member of a fraternity and of the military. According to the definition of hazing I have been getting hazed my entire life. Personally I have never felt that. Do I think it is important to eliminate hazing? Absolutely, but I think that sometimes people are so sensitive that they think everything is hazing. There comes a point in time where maybe running through the mud in the rain with your pledge brothers is a lot of fun (example). In the case of the military, I don’t think jabbing a new rank pin into someone’s chest is necessary but having to do the extra pushups and having to keep your room spotless etc. teaches you discipline and gives you strength to be a good soldier and learn your job. The Greek System is different obviously, and if you are getting hazed you should report it and get out of there. I will add however that if you can’t tell the difference between building a common bond and getting hazed maybe you shouldn’t be there in the first place.

Gid has demonstrated to me, that sadly, that is not the case here.

Trust me Gid. I WAS a Pike. Went through initiation night, and the three of us (almost) never came back. But by all means keep spewing your thinly veiled insults.