6 comments on “ACORN Charged in Nevada Investigation

  1. It seems that you and I have a clear difference in how one defines success, at least concerning this matter.

  2. Did you really just defend ACORN by calling it , “one of the most successful voter registration organizations around?”

    “…Today it [ACORN] claims 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 U.S. cities. “It boasts two radio stations, a housing corporation, a law office, and affiliate relationships with a host of trade-union locals,” wrote Sol Stern in the Spring 2003 issue of City Journal. In the same article, Stern pointed out that ACORN also runs schools where children are trained in class warfare; a network of “boot camps” for training street activists; and shake-down operations that extort money from banks and other businesses under threat of racial violence and trumped-up civil rights charges.”

    “…Former ACORN members and other leftist critics often describe ACORN as a cult – a movement which exploits its own members while demanding of them a fanatical, quasi-religious devotion. “They’re a curious cult, that’s what ACORN is,” comments Bob Bland, a self-described peace activist and solar architect who has worked with ACORN on specific projects. “ACORN carefully selects issues to build its name. It won’t coalesce with other groups…”

    “…Former ACORN workers cite low salaries, sporadic paychecks, sweatshop conditions, and intense work pressure among their reasons for leaving…”- ACORN: History, Activities, and Agendas, By Richard Poe, DiscoverTheNetworks.org

    Sounds like they could do with a good Union coming in to help protect their employees, right? Ultimately, ACORN at its core is nothing but a hard line left wing PAC designed support left wing candidates while growing the ranks of the left, often feloniously, while using public tax dollars. Even Obama is distancing himself from this corrupt organization and for good reason.

    “It’s probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the “motor voter” law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver’s license facilities to get registered. It wasn’t being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN.”
    He said he had further interactions with the group through its Chicago office, in his capacity as a local elected official. “But they are not advising our campaign,” Obama asserted. “We’ve got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.” – The Washington Post

    I seriously wonder if your support for ACORN would be so glowing if they spent the last decade supporting Bush and registering primarily Republicans from the burbs all on your dime, Jason.

  3. Oooops… I ment to write that Obama has distanced himself from ACORN. Who knows what the future will bring. Afterall, he was intent on tossing them a stimulous kick back…

  4. Grand conspiracy theories and desperate demonizing aside, Rich, they registered voters. That’s a good thing, whether it’s happening on the left or the right.

    And Nigel, two “bad seed” employees is not justification for ignoring years of previous success. I’m glad the charges are being filed (hopefully it will be an example for anyone considering future abuses in voter registration efforts) but don’t let yourself fall trap to the foolishness Rich is falling victim to here. ACORN is not evil. They just weren’t perfect.

    And in the end, they’ve still registered millions of new voters over the past several years.

  5. Jason,

    Grand conspiracy theories and desperation? Hmmm… So your argument is that all past allegations against ACORN, even those from former employees are mere conspiracy and a sign of desperation on the part of those who appose agendas? Kind of an easy rebuttal don’t you think?

    The REALITY is that ACORN receives Federal Tax dollars which it uses to not just register voters but to lobby and support candidates who are willing to push their agenda. If you cannot see a problem with that then we have far greater issues than labeling the testimonies of past ACORN workers as mere conspiracy theory. I wonder if the KKK were to begin doing a voter registration drive; would be so willing to overlook past activities to praise them for their work in getting people to the register to vote? I know that ACORN is no KKK but feel that the comparison shows that registering voters surely doesn’t forgive past transgressions or miraculously convert a narrow focused social/political organization into some sort of altruistic good for society club.

    While I disagree with their political leanings and strong arm tactics I have long said that my primary disagreement with ACORN lies with the fact that they do what they do with tax dollars. Once they receive money from the government their actions should remain primarily politically neutral. I would have to imagine that even you would agree Jason that ACORN is far from neutral and that their registration efforts only exist to further their political agenda.

    This entire discussion brings up a primary question; is it OK for organizations that receive public funding to also be involved in lobbying and promoting political campaigns? I would say NO! Heck, why don’t we just cut out the middle man and allow politicians to simply pass laws that send tax dollars directly into their re-election campaigns?

    There is a reason that Obama broke his promise about disallowing lobbyists within his administration.

  6. Not just one, two, ….15, states can bring Acorn down. They just spring up in new spots. Congratulations to Nevada for beginning their charges; but there is lots more that can be attacked. RICO should be on their trail, but what powerful Democrat will push that. If nothing more, ACORN
    can successfully charged for tax evasion. That method has worked with other Mob Bosses in past. Would this government ever permit it? I say NO.
    Please keep fight to expose ACORN, Glenn Beck!

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