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		<title>Comment on Supreme Court: Warrants needed in GPS tracking by Tim Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Carter</dc:creator>
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		<description>I agree with you Scooter.  It is a pretty small victory.  Still, it might set some kind of a precedent for future challenges against the &quot;Big Terrorism&quot; industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Scooter.  It is a pretty small victory.  Still, it might set some kind of a precedent for future challenges against the &#8220;Big Terrorism&#8221; industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Supreme Court: Warrants needed in GPS tracking by Scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What impact will this really have?  Why do they even bother with stuff like this when they have so many, and much easier, options for tracking people?  It isn&#039;t that difficult to get a person&#039;s cell phone location information from Verizon, T-Mobile, Google, Facebook, probably in many cases without a warrant.  And if they can&#039;t get that, with different law enforcment agencies buying UAV&#039;s[1] they can still track people visually and very stealthily.

It isn&#039;t a bad ruling, but ultimately I think it&#039;s just a little pointless.

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles#U.S._domestic_use
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211
http://www.officer.com/news/10443874/new-police-drone-in-texas-could-carry-weapons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What impact will this really have?  Why do they even bother with stuff like this when they have so many, and much easier, options for tracking people?  It isn&#8217;t that difficult to get a person&#8217;s cell phone location information from Verizon, T-Mobile, Google, Facebook, probably in many cases without a warrant.  And if they can&#8217;t get that, with different law enforcment agencies buying UAV&#8217;s[1] they can still track people visually and very stealthily.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t a bad ruling, but ultimately I think it&#8217;s just a little pointless.</p>
<p>[1]<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles#U.S._domestic_use" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles#U.S._domestic_use</a><br />
<a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211</a><br />
<a href="http://www.officer.com/news/10443874/new-police-drone-in-texas-could-carry-weapons" rel="nofollow">http://www.officer.com/news/10443874/new-police-drone-in-texas-could-carry-weapons</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on SL Trib: &#8220;Founders Rightly Curbed States Rights&#8221; by sergei</title>
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		<dc:creator>sergei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4:46 sergei7: When Senators became direct elected and the Feds, thru the IRS, could reach directly into individual&#039;s paychecks, the powers of the states were dramatically reduced, such that they seem largely 
4:47 sergei7: to be administrative branches of the fed, not shared power bases
4:48 sergei7: nullification is a common law principle going way back.  It&#039;s a way to prevent bad laws/accusations from being enacted without the need to go to direct arms
4:56 sergei7: Do you guys even read this during the show????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4:46 sergei7: When Senators became direct elected and the Feds, thru the IRS, could reach directly into individual&#8217;s paychecks, the powers of the states were dramatically reduced, such that they seem largely<br />
4:47 sergei7: to be administrative branches of the fed, not shared power bases<br />
4:48 sergei7: nullification is a common law principle going way back.  It&#8217;s a way to prevent bad laws/accusations from being enacted without the need to go to direct arms<br />
4:56 sergei7: Do you guys even read this during the show????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Mike S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen Ron Paul claim Madison wasn&#039;t a federalist, so I don&#039;t see how he&#039;s &quot;re-writing history.&quot;  Everyone knows some of the delegates wanted the central government more powerful than it wound up being, and some wanted it less powerful than it wound up being.  

And I think it&#039;s been well covered in other comments that you might be confusing a &quot;strong&quot; central government with a &quot;stronger&quot; central government.  Under the Articles, the federal gov&#039;t was too weak to do anything and the states were feuding idiotically; the Constitution was designed to fix that.

But your assertion that &quot;the U.S. Constitution was somehow drafted to limit the powers of the federal government and decentralize that power on behalf of the states&quot; isn&#039;t true completely ignores the reality of a Constitution written specifically to enumerate the few powers delegated to and spread across the three branches of the federal gov&#039;t, and which reserves *all* other powers to the states and to the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen Ron Paul claim Madison wasn&#8217;t a federalist, so I don&#8217;t see how he&#8217;s &#8220;re-writing history.&#8221;  Everyone knows some of the delegates wanted the central government more powerful than it wound up being, and some wanted it less powerful than it wound up being.  </p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s been well covered in other comments that you might be confusing a &#8220;strong&#8221; central government with a &#8220;stronger&#8221; central government.  Under the Articles, the federal gov&#8217;t was too weak to do anything and the states were feuding idiotically; the Constitution was designed to fix that.</p>
<p>But your assertion that &#8220;the U.S. Constitution was somehow drafted to limit the powers of the federal government and decentralize that power on behalf of the states&#8221; isn&#8217;t true completely ignores the reality of a Constitution written specifically to enumerate the few powers delegated to and spread across the three branches of the federal gov&#8217;t, and which reserves *all* other powers to the states and to the people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Andrew Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  I like your characterization of a &quot;strong enough central government&quot;.  I didn&#039;t adequately define my terms because I was speaking solely in the historical context.  (also, it&#039;s a blog.  Of course I&#039;m trying to ramp up readers a bit ;)  And you&#039;re correct about the Convention being called to address frustrations over the Articles. -The frustrations incident to the very kind of state empowerment that Rep. Paul espouses in the article that started this whole thread.  
That was my only point: the case against federal overreach, whether in 1787 or today, is a good one.  It&#039;s just not the argument the &quot;Founders&quot; considered preeminent during the deliberations at Philadelphia.
--As an aside, Jefferson initially hated the whole idea of the Convention and the document it produced.  From across the ocean he was aghast as he considered the work of the Convention to be a betrayal of the &quot;Spirit of &#039;76&quot;.  It was only when he and the Democratic-Republicans finally captured the presidency in 1800 that he finally felt the Revolutionary legacy had been saved from the treasonous Federalists.
Let history speak for itself.  It&#039;s usually so much more interesting that way.  Usually :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  I like your characterization of a &#8220;strong enough central government&#8221;.  I didn&#8217;t adequately define my terms because I was speaking solely in the historical context.  (also, it&#8217;s a blog.  Of course I&#8217;m trying to ramp up readers a bit <img src='http://kvnuforthepeople.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   And you&#8217;re correct about the Convention being called to address frustrations over the Articles. -The frustrations incident to the very kind of state empowerment that Rep. Paul espouses in the article that started this whole thread.<br />
That was my only point: the case against federal overreach, whether in 1787 or today, is a good one.  It&#8217;s just not the argument the &#8220;Founders&#8221; considered preeminent during the deliberations at Philadelphia.<br />
&#8211;As an aside, Jefferson initially hated the whole idea of the Convention and the document it produced.  From across the ocean he was aghast as he considered the work of the Convention to be a betrayal of the &#8220;Spirit of &#8217;76&#8243;.  It was only when he and the Democratic-Republicans finally captured the presidency in 1800 that he finally felt the Revolutionary legacy had been saved from the treasonous Federalists.<br />
Let history speak for itself.  It&#8217;s usually so much more interesting that way.  Usually <img src='http://kvnuforthepeople.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The convention was not called to create a &quot;strong central government&quot;. It was called to fix the Articles of Confederation. 

And you seem to have missed my point entirely. My argument centered around their view of what of what a strong central government should be, verses our understanding of what that phrase denotes today. You never make any attempt to define the term and leave the reader confused about what some of the founders were after. 

You stated &quot;But we should always be very careful not to view history through the lense of our present circumstance.&quot; In order to do that we have to be clear about the use of under defined terms that invite strong emotional responses from readers. Readers, that will read your words their the filters of their own understanding and world view.

I&#039;ll say it again, the system they came up with, one in which Madison, Jefferson, Washington and many other prominent men of the day were fairly happy with, would be better defined as a &quot;strong enough central government&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The convention was not called to create a &#8220;strong central government&#8221;. It was called to fix the Articles of Confederation. </p>
<p>And you seem to have missed my point entirely. My argument centered around their view of what of what a strong central government should be, verses our understanding of what that phrase denotes today. You never make any attempt to define the term and leave the reader confused about what some of the founders were after. </p>
<p>You stated &#8220;But we should always be very careful not to view history through the lense of our present circumstance.&#8221; In order to do that we have to be clear about the use of under defined terms that invite strong emotional responses from readers. Readers, that will read your words their the filters of their own understanding and world view.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again, the system they came up with, one in which Madison, Jefferson, Washington and many other prominent men of the day were fairly happy with, would be better defined as a &#8220;strong enough central government&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Andrew Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thanks for weighing in.  Parts of your post are good examples of exactly what I&#039;m talking about.  First though, I don&#039;t know how I could more expressly state my absolute agreement with your larger point.  Yes, the federal system is grotesquely out of balance right now.  Yes the power of the modern federal government is far too large.  And no, I don&#039;t believe the men of the Founding generation foresaw the &quot;Leviathan that now inhabits our capital&quot; (Well, not proponents of the Constitution anyway; &quot;Brutus&quot; saw it pretty clearly, but remember he was arguing AGAINST ratification).
But we should always be very careful not to view history through the lense of our present circumstance. - Especially an historical era so rich in primary source documentation.  These men wanted us to know what they were thinking; let&#039;s not do them the injustice of turning their own words upside down just to make a contemporary political point.
Let&#039;s be clear about one thing.  &quot;Many&quot; delegates did not go to Philadelphia with &quot;with the express task of preserving state power&quot;.  That&#039;s simply not true.  Many who came were ambivalent at best about the virtues of &quot;state power&quot;.  As I stated in the OP, most who were concerned about preserving &quot;state power&quot; (and this was a majority of the folks at the time) purposefully stayed away from the Convention.  Rhode Island feared the strong central government that the convention set out to create and refused to send anyone at all.  The delegations from the Southern states came largely with the motivation you identified, but most others did not, and even those who did lean toward the principles of the Articles of Conf. quickly abandoned such thoughts and &quot;many&quot; actually became ardent nationalists by the end of the summer.  (see Rufus King and Nathanial Gorham among others)
I understand the &quot;enumerated powers&quot; argument and I agree with it.  I understand the structural limitations on governmental power codified within the Constitution and I love and honor those marvelous innovations in the science of government.  Please don&#039;t confuse my argument as one against the need for continued application of the principles in the 10th amendment.  I&#039;m with you on that.
But we do not get to re-write history nor the motivations of historical figures just because we find a certain portion of their work more salient in modern times.  The Convention was called expressly to establish a strong national gov&#039;t.  As I mentioned earlier, Madison had in mind a much stronger national gov&#039;t than he got, and Hamilton and a handful of others would have been happy to abolish the states altogether.  The debate was robust throughout the process, but it only took them a few days to completely scrap the Articles.  
There were many voices during the convention and ratification debates, but those who were urging ratification of the Constitution were those who believed strongly in the necessity of a strong centralized government (as they understood it, of course, not by our modern understanding).  
To assert otherwise is a cheap exploitation of history.  We owe the great founding generation more than that.
--We have had Mr. Bradley on the show before and would be happy to have him again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thanks for weighing in.  Parts of your post are good examples of exactly what I&#8217;m talking about.  First though, I don&#8217;t know how I could more expressly state my absolute agreement with your larger point.  Yes, the federal system is grotesquely out of balance right now.  Yes the power of the modern federal government is far too large.  And no, I don&#8217;t believe the men of the Founding generation foresaw the &#8220;Leviathan that now inhabits our capital&#8221; (Well, not proponents of the Constitution anyway; &#8220;Brutus&#8221; saw it pretty clearly, but remember he was arguing AGAINST ratification).<br />
But we should always be very careful not to view history through the lense of our present circumstance. &#8211; Especially an historical era so rich in primary source documentation.  These men wanted us to know what they were thinking; let&#8217;s not do them the injustice of turning their own words upside down just to make a contemporary political point.<br />
Let&#8217;s be clear about one thing.  &#8220;Many&#8221; delegates did not go to Philadelphia with &#8220;with the express task of preserving state power&#8221;.  That&#8217;s simply not true.  Many who came were ambivalent at best about the virtues of &#8220;state power&#8221;.  As I stated in the OP, most who were concerned about preserving &#8220;state power&#8221; (and this was a majority of the folks at the time) purposefully stayed away from the Convention.  Rhode Island feared the strong central government that the convention set out to create and refused to send anyone at all.  The delegations from the Southern states came largely with the motivation you identified, but most others did not, and even those who did lean toward the principles of the Articles of Conf. quickly abandoned such thoughts and &#8220;many&#8221; actually became ardent nationalists by the end of the summer.  (see Rufus King and Nathanial Gorham among others)<br />
I understand the &#8220;enumerated powers&#8221; argument and I agree with it.  I understand the structural limitations on governmental power codified within the Constitution and I love and honor those marvelous innovations in the science of government.  Please don&#8217;t confuse my argument as one against the need for continued application of the principles in the 10th amendment.  I&#8217;m with you on that.<br />
But we do not get to re-write history nor the motivations of historical figures just because we find a certain portion of their work more salient in modern times.  The Convention was called expressly to establish a strong national gov&#8217;t.  As I mentioned earlier, Madison had in mind a much stronger national gov&#8217;t than he got, and Hamilton and a handful of others would have been happy to abolish the states altogether.  The debate was robust throughout the process, but it only took them a few days to completely scrap the Articles.<br />
There were many voices during the convention and ratification debates, but those who were urging ratification of the Constitution were those who believed strongly in the necessity of a strong centralized government (as they understood it, of course, not by our modern understanding).<br />
To assert otherwise is a cheap exploitation of history.  We owe the great founding generation more than that.<br />
&#8211;We have had Mr. Bradley on the show before and would be happy to have him again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with your article is in the definition of &quot;strong centralized Federal Government&quot;. 

Madison went to Philadelphia with a plan to create a government that was adequate to the tasks he perceived it needed to perform. The Convention was billed as a means of fixing the Articles and it was a revolutionary idea in and of itself to scrap them for a whole new Constitution. Most of the states sent men with the express task of preserving state power. Really they wanted a system that was capable of keeping things together and the states out of war with each other. 

To suggest that these men, man of who had recently suffered through the misery of the Revolutionary War, all jumped on their horses and into their wagons, and rushed off to Pennsylvania to create anything akin to what we now understand a strong central government to be is not only misleading, but laughable. I doubt many of them could conceive, in their wildest nightmares, the hideous Leviathan that now inhabits our capital. Do you really believe they wanted things like NLRB, EPA, FBI, CIA, BATFE, DEA, the Department of Education, HHS and the myriad of other acronyms that now creep into and attempt to control every facet of our lives? 

No, and the proof of that is in the Constitution itself where the powers of each branch were expressly enumerated and EVERYTHING else was left to the people and the states. They created a document wherein the genius itself was in it&#039;s power to do what was needed and nothing more. 

Perhaps you could invite Scott Bradley (former candidate for Senate) on your show to talk about this. I think it would make for some very interesting radio and perhaps we could iron out these semantic misunderstandings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with your article is in the definition of &#8220;strong centralized Federal Government&#8221;. </p>
<p>Madison went to Philadelphia with a plan to create a government that was adequate to the tasks he perceived it needed to perform. The Convention was billed as a means of fixing the Articles and it was a revolutionary idea in and of itself to scrap them for a whole new Constitution. Most of the states sent men with the express task of preserving state power. Really they wanted a system that was capable of keeping things together and the states out of war with each other. </p>
<p>To suggest that these men, man of who had recently suffered through the misery of the Revolutionary War, all jumped on their horses and into their wagons, and rushed off to Pennsylvania to create anything akin to what we now understand a strong central government to be is not only misleading, but laughable. I doubt many of them could conceive, in their wildest nightmares, the hideous Leviathan that now inhabits our capital. Do you really believe they wanted things like NLRB, EPA, FBI, CIA, BATFE, DEA, the Department of Education, HHS and the myriad of other acronyms that now creep into and attempt to control every facet of our lives? </p>
<p>No, and the proof of that is in the Constitution itself where the powers of each branch were expressly enumerated and EVERYTHING else was left to the people and the states. They created a document wherein the genius itself was in it&#8217;s power to do what was needed and nothing more. </p>
<p>Perhaps you could invite Scott Bradley (former candidate for Senate) on your show to talk about this. I think it would make for some very interesting radio and perhaps we could iron out these semantic misunderstandings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Republican Mormon Presidential Candidate 2.0 by Lorena...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorena...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you do not understand the gospel and the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Joseph Smith is a prophet of the Lord, just as Moses was in the old testament of the bible. There are many scriptures in the bible through today which have not been proven but people believe because they have faith in a God that exists. When and if you can allow for the spirit to manifest the truth in what is taught in the scriptures, then that should help to speak the truth in what you seek in the scriptures. All the teachings in the Gospel are true and meaningful. Having an open mind, open heart and prayerful spirit can help you understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you do not understand the gospel and the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Joseph Smith is a prophet of the Lord, just as Moses was in the old testament of the bible. There are many scriptures in the bible through today which have not been proven but people believe because they have faith in a God that exists. When and if you can allow for the spirit to manifest the truth in what is taught in the scriptures, then that should help to speak the truth in what you seek in the scriptures. All the teachings in the Gospel are true and meaningful. Having an open mind, open heart and prayerful spirit can help you understand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Andrew Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to get defensive.  I explicitly stated that I largely agree with Rep Paul on the Constitutional limits on federal power.  I&#039;m not cheap shotting anyone, I genuinely value what Ron Paul brings to the debate and the presidential race.  I don&#039;t think he is attempting deliberate deception, and my contention is really tangential to his main point anyway.
But my problem with this particular Tea Party interpretation of the Founding Era begins the very moment I open a history book. -Especially the Federalist Papers, which were written in argument FOR the necessity of a strong, centralized Federal government.  The F.P. are the greatest single contribution to political theory in the past 500 years precisely because they provide the first cogent argument of how a large Federal republic might be possible.
As for the Anti-Federalist, I for one think that Brutus got it right.  He foresaw better than anyone the future monstrous growth of the central gov&#039;t as formulated in the Constitution.  But that&#039;s exactly my point.  The case for small, de-centralized gov&#039;t in 1789 was being made by the opponents of the Constitution, NOT its Framers.
Again, I think those are points are exceedingly valid in modern America, but none of us get to re-write history in an attempt to enlist the venerated Founders on our side.  Many in that generation justifiably agreed with the principles Dr. Paul espouses.  Just not the ones who drafted or ratified the Constitution.
It&#039;s not always wise to assume that just because someone doesn&#039;t agree with you that they are completely uninformed on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to get defensive.  I explicitly stated that I largely agree with Rep Paul on the Constitutional limits on federal power.  I&#8217;m not cheap shotting anyone, I genuinely value what Ron Paul brings to the debate and the presidential race.  I don&#8217;t think he is attempting deliberate deception, and my contention is really tangential to his main point anyway.<br />
But my problem with this particular Tea Party interpretation of the Founding Era begins the very moment I open a history book. -Especially the Federalist Papers, which were written in argument FOR the necessity of a strong, centralized Federal government.  The F.P. are the greatest single contribution to political theory in the past 500 years precisely because they provide the first cogent argument of how a large Federal republic might be possible.<br />
As for the Anti-Federalist, I for one think that Brutus got it right.  He foresaw better than anyone the future monstrous growth of the central gov&#8217;t as formulated in the Constitution.  But that&#8217;s exactly my point.  The case for small, de-centralized gov&#8217;t in 1789 was being made by the opponents of the Constitution, NOT its Framers.<br />
Again, I think those are points are exceedingly valid in modern America, but none of us get to re-write history in an attempt to enlist the venerated Founders on our side.  Many in that generation justifiably agreed with the principles Dr. Paul espouses.  Just not the ones who drafted or ratified the Constitution.<br />
It&#8217;s not always wise to assume that just because someone doesn&#8217;t agree with you that they are completely uninformed on the issue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our Founding Fathers understood the dangers of a massive and intrusive federal government.

That&#039;s why they gave us the U.S. Constitution —establishing a very limited, decentralized government to provide for national defense and little else. Because local politicians are closest to the people they represent, the states were to be the ones handling most of the problems and issues facing the people.&quot;

If you think the above is a misrepresentation of the historical discussions behind the creation of our constitution you should pick up a history book, or, better yet, read The Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers. You will find that keeping a tight rein on a limited federal government was the main theme of most of the founders Constitutional deliberations.

Your original post is based on the false assertion that Dr. Paul either doesn&#039;t understand this history or that he is purposely trying to mislead people. It is a cheap shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our Founding Fathers understood the dangers of a massive and intrusive federal government.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they gave us the U.S. Constitution —establishing a very limited, decentralized government to provide for national defense and little else. Because local politicians are closest to the people they represent, the states were to be the ones handling most of the problems and issues facing the people.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you think the above is a misrepresentation of the historical discussions behind the creation of our constitution you should pick up a history book, or, better yet, read The Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers. You will find that keeping a tight rein on a limited federal government was the main theme of most of the founders Constitutional deliberations.</p>
<p>Your original post is based on the false assertion that Dr. Paul either doesn&#8217;t understand this history or that he is purposely trying to mislead people. It is a cheap shot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Andrew Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not critiquing Rep. Paul&#039;s understanding of the Constitution (in this post), but rather his misrepresentation of the historical forces behind the establishment of that document.
My issue is with the first two lines of his article as quoted above, not his diagnosis of what ails our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not critiquing Rep. Paul&#8217;s understanding of the Constitution (in this post), but rather his misrepresentation of the historical forces behind the establishment of that document.<br />
My issue is with the first two lines of his article as quoted above, not his diagnosis of what ails our society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Ron Paul re-writing history? by Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice straw man argument.

Your excerpts of Mr. Paul&#039;s argument do not demonstrate he has a desire restoring anything like the Articles of Confederation.  

Take a look at Ron Paul&#039;s website and literature.  

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

It is clear that his understanding of what the Constitution authorizes the federal government to do is sound.  His arguments for a return to this idea of a limited federal government don&#039;t come close to the ignorance you attribute to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice straw man argument.</p>
<p>Your excerpts of Mr. Paul&#8217;s argument do not demonstrate he has a desire restoring anything like the Articles of Confederation.  </p>
<p>Take a look at Ron Paul&#8217;s website and literature.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ronpaul2012.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul2012.com/</a></p>
<p>It is clear that his understanding of what the Constitution authorizes the federal government to do is sound.  His arguments for a return to this idea of a limited federal government don&#8217;t come close to the ignorance you attribute to him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A must see video: Utah&#8217;s texting while driving documentary by Jessi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
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		<description>@Matt you are so ignorant.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 by kohler</title>
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		<dc:creator>kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now presidential elections ignore 12 of the 13 lowest population states (3-4 electoral votes), that are almost invariably non-competitive,in presidential elections. 6 regularly vote Republican (AK, ID, MT, WY, ND, and SD), and 6 regularly vote Democratic (RI, DE, HI, VT, ME, and DC) in presidential elections. When and where votes don&#039;t matter, candidates ignore those areas and the issues they care about most. 
	
Support for a national popular vote is strong in every smallest state surveyed in recent polls among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group.  Support in smaller states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK -70%, DC -76%, DE --75%, ID -77%, ME - 77%, MT- 72%,  NE - 74%, NH--69%, NE - 72%, NM - 76%, RI - 74%,  SD- 71%, UT- 70%, VT - 75%, WV- 81%,  and WY- 69%.
	
In the lowest population states, the National Popular Vote bill has passed in nine state legislative chambers, and has been enacted by 3 jurisdictions.
 	
None of the 10 most rural states (VT, ME, WV, MS, SD, AR, MT, ND, AL, and KY) is a battleground state. 
The current state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes does not enhance the influence of rural states, because the most rural states are not battleground states, and they are ignored.

Of the 22 medium-lowest population states (those with 3,4,5, or 6 electoral votes), only 3 have been battleground states in recent elections-- NH NM, and NV. These three states contain only 14 (8%) of the 22 medium-lowest population states&#039; total 166 electoral votes. 

With the current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes, it could only take winning a bare plurality of popular votes in the 11 most populous states, containing 56% of the population of the United States, for a candidate to win the Presidency -- that is, a mere 26% of the nation&#039;s votes.
	
With National Popular Vote, big states that are just about as closely divided as the rest of the country, would not get all of the candidates&#039; attention. In recent presidential elections, the 11 largest states have been split -- 5 &quot;red states (TX, FL, OH, NC, and GA) and 6 &quot;blue&quot; states (CA, NY, IL, PA, MI, and NJ). Among the four largest states, the two largest Republican states (TX and FL)  generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Bush, while the two largest Democratic states generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Kerry.  8 small western states, with less than a third of California’s population, provided Bush with a bigger margin (1,283,076) than California provided Kerry (1,235,659).

With National Popular Vote, every vote would be equal. Candidates would reallocate the money they raise to no longer ignore 2/3rds of the states and voters.

16% of Americans live in rural areas.

With National Popular Vote, big cities would not get all of candidates’ attention, much less control the outcome. 
The population of the top five cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia) is only 6% of the population of the United States and the population of the top 50 cities (going as far down as Arlington, TX) is only 19% of the population of the United States.  Suburbs and exurbs often vote Republican.
	
Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote.

If big cities controlled the outcome of elections, the governors and U.S. Senators would be Democratic in virtually every state with a significant city. 
	
A nationwide presidential campaign, with every vote equal, would be run the way presidential candidates campaign to win the electoral votes of closely divided battleground states, such as Ohio and Florida, under the state-by-state winner-take-all methods. The big cities in those battleground states do not receive all the attention, much less control the outcome. Cleveland and Miami do not receive all the attention or control the outcome in Ohio and Florida.
	
The itineraries of presidential candidates in battleground states (and their allocation of other campaign resources in battleground states) reflect the political reality that every gubernatorial or senatorial candidate knows. When and where every vote is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere.
		
Even in California state-wide elections, candidates for governor or U.S. Senate don&#039;t campaign just in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and those places don&#039;t control the outcome (otherwise California wouldn&#039;t have recently had Republican governors Reagan, Dukemejian, Wilson, and Schwarzenegger).   A vote in rural Alpine county is just an important as a vote in Los Angeles.   If Los Angeles cannot control statewide elections in California, it can hardly control a nationwide election. 
		
In fact, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland together cannot control a statewide election in California. 

Similarly, Republicans dominate Texas politics without carrying big cities such as Dallas and Houston. 

There are numerous other examples of Republicans who won races for governor and U.S. Senator in other states that have big cities (e.g., New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts) without ever carrying the big cities of their respective states. 

The National Popular Vote bill would not change the need for candidates to build a winning coalition across demographics. Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote. Candidates would have to appeal to a broad range of demographics, and perhaps even more so, because the election wouldn’t be capable of coming down to just one demographic, such as voters in Ohio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now presidential elections ignore 12 of the 13 lowest population states (3-4 electoral votes), that are almost invariably non-competitive,in presidential elections. 6 regularly vote Republican (AK, ID, MT, WY, ND, and SD), and 6 regularly vote Democratic (RI, DE, HI, VT, ME, and DC) in presidential elections. When and where votes don&#8217;t matter, candidates ignore those areas and the issues they care about most. </p>
<p>Support for a national popular vote is strong in every smallest state surveyed in recent polls among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group.  Support in smaller states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK -70%, DC -76%, DE &#8211;75%, ID -77%, ME &#8211; 77%, MT- 72%,  NE &#8211; 74%, NH&#8211;69%, NE &#8211; 72%, NM &#8211; 76%, RI &#8211; 74%,  SD- 71%, UT- 70%, VT &#8211; 75%, WV- 81%,  and WY- 69%.</p>
<p>In the lowest population states, the National Popular Vote bill has passed in nine state legislative chambers, and has been enacted by 3 jurisdictions.</p>
<p>None of the 10 most rural states (VT, ME, WV, MS, SD, AR, MT, ND, AL, and KY) is a battleground state.<br />
The current state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes does not enhance the influence of rural states, because the most rural states are not battleground states, and they are ignored.</p>
<p>Of the 22 medium-lowest population states (those with 3,4,5, or 6 electoral votes), only 3 have been battleground states in recent elections&#8211; NH NM, and NV. These three states contain only 14 (8%) of the 22 medium-lowest population states&#8217; total 166 electoral votes. </p>
<p>With the current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes, it could only take winning a bare plurality of popular votes in the 11 most populous states, containing 56% of the population of the United States, for a candidate to win the Presidency &#8212; that is, a mere 26% of the nation&#8217;s votes.</p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, big states that are just about as closely divided as the rest of the country, would not get all of the candidates&#8217; attention. In recent presidential elections, the 11 largest states have been split &#8212; 5 &#8220;red states (TX, FL, OH, NC, and GA) and 6 &#8220;blue&#8221; states (CA, NY, IL, PA, MI, and NJ). Among the four largest states, the two largest Republican states (TX and FL)  generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Bush, while the two largest Democratic states generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Kerry.  8 small western states, with less than a third of California’s population, provided Bush with a bigger margin (1,283,076) than California provided Kerry (1,235,659).</p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, every vote would be equal. Candidates would reallocate the money they raise to no longer ignore 2/3rds of the states and voters.</p>
<p>16% of Americans live in rural areas.</p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, big cities would not get all of candidates’ attention, much less control the outcome.<br />
The population of the top five cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia) is only 6% of the population of the United States and the population of the top 50 cities (going as far down as Arlington, TX) is only 19% of the population of the United States.  Suburbs and exurbs often vote Republican.</p>
<p>Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote.</p>
<p>If big cities controlled the outcome of elections, the governors and U.S. Senators would be Democratic in virtually every state with a significant city. </p>
<p>A nationwide presidential campaign, with every vote equal, would be run the way presidential candidates campaign to win the electoral votes of closely divided battleground states, such as Ohio and Florida, under the state-by-state winner-take-all methods. The big cities in those battleground states do not receive all the attention, much less control the outcome. Cleveland and Miami do not receive all the attention or control the outcome in Ohio and Florida.</p>
<p>The itineraries of presidential candidates in battleground states (and their allocation of other campaign resources in battleground states) reflect the political reality that every gubernatorial or senatorial candidate knows. When and where every vote is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere.</p>
<p>Even in California state-wide elections, candidates for governor or U.S. Senate don&#8217;t campaign just in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and those places don&#8217;t control the outcome (otherwise California wouldn&#8217;t have recently had Republican governors Reagan, Dukemejian, Wilson, and Schwarzenegger).   A vote in rural Alpine county is just an important as a vote in Los Angeles.   If Los Angeles cannot control statewide elections in California, it can hardly control a nationwide election. </p>
<p>In fact, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland together cannot control a statewide election in California. </p>
<p>Similarly, Republicans dominate Texas politics without carrying big cities such as Dallas and Houston. </p>
<p>There are numerous other examples of Republicans who won races for governor and U.S. Senator in other states that have big cities (e.g., New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts) without ever carrying the big cities of their respective states. </p>
<p>The National Popular Vote bill would not change the need for candidates to build a winning coalition across demographics. Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote. Candidates would have to appeal to a broad range of demographics, and perhaps even more so, because the election wouldn’t be capable of coming down to just one demographic, such as voters in Ohio.</p>
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